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Heather M



Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Anyone a vegetarian? Reply with quote

I am interested in becoming vegetarian. The last couple months I have been trying to incorporate more organic foods in my diet. I read 2 books on detoxification this summer and it really got me thinking. We feed ourselves such junk so much of the time. And despite being moved by what I read, and trying to eat better, I still feel like I do miserably. I am really interested in a vegetarian diet. Anyone have any thoughts? Good? Bad?


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winterswhisper00



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nope im not. But i do often think about becoming one. I always decide im going to become one then actually never do it. Do you loose more weight if you dont eat meat?
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LesMoo



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've known plenty of overweight vegetarians. If the meat you eat is lean and you keep all of your other food at their proscribed portion sizes, then you're fine.


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Bird77



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason you meet many slim vegetarians is that many of them are very health concious otherwise. The key is living an active lifestyle and eating balanced meals.

If you choose to become vegetarian for other reasons, that's cool. My brother is a "veggie," and I'm supportive of him. But keep in mind that getting a good nutritional balance will take more work if you make that choice. He has a hard time ensuring that he gets enough complete proteins, which are important for a 20-year-old, very active guy (and he's lacto-ovo, it's much worse for vegans). It's a common problem.

Another issue is that many inexperienced vegetarians end up eating a lot of junk--french fries, things like that--because they don't understand how to eat right and they just go for whatever option has no meat without thinking about the body's needs.

If you're having problems sticking to other diets, going vegetarian will be really hard for you. You might want to consider whether you can manage your food needs this way.

In these days, a man who says a thing cannot be done is quite apt to be interrupted by some idiot doing it.
- Elbert Hubbard
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Privateeye97



Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am actually a vegan, and have been for quite sometime.
I do not find it difficult to get enough protein, or any other nutrients my body might need to function at its optimal level.
This video might help you on your way to becoming a vegetarian.
Very Happy Shocked Very Happy

http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/swf/mym.swf


If you have any questions email me at

privateeye97@gmail.com

or

brettbucher@gcasda.org Shocked
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7195



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense meant, but I don't always agree
with vegetarians. Especially if you are only
doing it to lose weight or to be thought of as someone
who cares about the evironment/animals etc...
If you are at all familiar w/ the bible, you realize that
God meant for people to eat a variety of foods, including
meat for your nutrition. Some people think that they
are above others and belong to an elite group if they
become vegetarians. That said, if you are doing it for health
reasons, or you truly can't stand meat, you will
need to be more aware of your protein requirements
than the meat-eater does. I was a vegetarian for about
2 years, because I had gotten pregnant, and the thought
of eating meat just didn't appeal to me. I know too many
vegetarians that are unhealthy (either wasting away, pale,
or overweight). They are the one's who think that as long
as they aren't eating meat, everything else is hands on.
Usually these people ingest way too many carbohydrates,
and they gain weight because the extra cals/carbs add the
fat on. It is true that you can be a very healthy vegetarian,
but keep in mind that you have to enjoy other high protein
foods, and that you will try to opt for whole grains and other
good carbs, not just junk that has no meat in it. I say, the
sign of a truly healthy person comes from how they feel, and
perform in life, and how good their immune system works.
We all need to find the way for ourselves, and find out what
works for us specifically. Please don't follow any bandwagons
out there, but try to keep all in moderation. You can be healthy
as a meat eater or a vegetarian, and no one should tell you otherwise.

Whether you believe you can or believe you cannot, you are probably right!
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Privateeye97



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest you reading this...

http://www.peta2.com/p2vsk2%5Fflash/


Go to page eight...

According to the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, Vegetarians are 40% less likely to get cancer.


"On average vegetarians and vegans live 6 to 10 years longer than meat eaters.

The risk of developing heart diesease among meat-eaters is 50% higher than that of vegetarians and vegans.

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I'm not saying 'oh you must do this', just in my personal opinion eating meat and dairy grosses me out, as does breeding animals
so my species can wear their dead skin.

and if you plan on using the bible...

"But the flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." - Genesis 9:4

"And the Lord spoke to Moses saying. speak unto the children of Israel, saying , ye shall eat no manner of fat, of ox, or of sheep, or of goat.

And the fat of the beast that dieth of itself, and the fat of that which is torn with beasts may be used in any other use, but ye shall in no wise eat of it." - Leviticus 7:22
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7195



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but that was in the Old Testament. Well, I don't want
to be in a arguement on the bible. I just don't believe
everything I read. PETA is an organization
that is very extreme, and they are known to care more
about animal life then human life. I don't agree w/ their
philosophy, and they will not be happy until they dictate
how everyone on earth lives their lives. I say "LIVE and LET LIVE!"
Everyone has their opinions, but some believe it is their life's
work to impose it on everyone else. They very often spread lies
and use scare tactics in their "life's work". They don't often get
directly to the source of what the problem is. Let's face it,
we are all part of the food chain, including animals. It's our
check and balance system for nature. Well....to each his own!

Whether you believe you can or believe you cannot, you are probably right!
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hugapirate



Joined: 29 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7195 wrote:
Yes, but that was in the Old Testament. Well, I don't want
to be in a arguement on the bible. I just don't believe
everything I read. PETA is an organization
that is very extreme, and they are known to care more
about animal life then human life. I don't agree w/ their
philosophy, and they will not be happy until they dictate
how everyone on earth lives their lives. I say "LIVE and LET LIVE!"
Everyone has their opinions, but some believe it is their life's
work to impose it on everyone else. They very often spread lies
and use scare tactics in their "life's work". They don't often get
directly to the source of what the problem is. Let's face it,
we are all part of the food chain, including animals. It's our
check and balance system for nature. Well....to each his own!


as a jew, i resent the devaluing of texts that are sacred to me. if i were an atheist, i'm sure i'd be ticked at biblical references on a diet page. There are other reasons to do things (like turn vegetarian) besides religion.

(also, an interesting note: these quotes from the bible are out of context. they don't ban the eating of animals, they ban the eating of diseased or mistreated animals. there is a distinction.)

and i don't think you can discount what animal rights activists (even the crazy ones) say by default. There is a lot of mutilation of animals in our industry, and i don't know how anyone can see what goes on and actually WANT to eat the meat on their plate.

they say the owl was the bakers daughter--lord, we know what we are, but know not what we may be
-Ophelia (Hamlet)
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steffeysue



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortunately the food police don't really exist. . . . . do they?

If you want to try being a vegetarian, then go for it. If you are a carnivore, go for it. If you are an omnivore (I am a pround member!!) go for it. But make sure you understand the basics and you eat a balanced diet. Watch your caloric intake and be happy!

The miracle is not that I finished the race, it is that I had the courage to start. --John Bingham and Steffeysue
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Privateeye97



Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

7195 wrote:
\I say "LIVE and LET LIVE!"
\



I agree with you, I am going to do what I want and I expect everyone to do what they feel convicted to.


and yes I am aware that they were out of context,
I have gone to Religious schools all my life (not saying this makes me some guru of some sort, but I'm just aware of the fact that many religions and beliefs are based upon out of context verses)
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steffeysue



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I don't get:

Why does anyone have to justify why, when, what, how they eat? It doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of your "eating" philosopy, for pete's sake, don't bother justifying it! You probably won't change anyone's mind about what they eat and what they believe. Just eat the way you feel best, physically, emotionally and spiritually.

A justification for being vegetarian or not, is a waste of breath, time and energy. And all too often it comes off as whiney, or as a condemnation to others. And can lead to unneccesary conflict. (see above) Save your energy for something really useful. Do a 5K race over the holidays and enjoy yourself. If someone asks, just say, I like it this way!

The miracle is not that I finished the race, it is that I had the courage to start. --John Bingham and Steffeysue
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Nicevans



Joined: 08 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steffeysue wrote:
What I don't get:

Why does anyone have to justify why, when, what, how they eat? It doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of your "eating" philosopy, for pete's sake, don't bother justifying it! You probably won't change anyone's mind about what they eat and what they believe. Just eat the way you feel best, physically, emotionally and spiritually.

A justification for being vegetarian or not, is a waste of breath, time and energy. And all too often it comes off as whiney, or as a condemnation to others. And can lead to unneccesary conflict. (see above) Save your energy for something really useful. Do a 5K race over the holidays and enjoy yourself. If someone asks, just say, I like it this way!


I couldn't have put it better myself!


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Privateeye97



Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steffeysue wrote:
What I don't get:

Why does anyone have to justify why, when, what, how they eat? It doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of your "eating" philosopy, for pete's sake, don't bother justifying it! You probably won't change anyone's mind about what they eat and what they believe. Just eat the way you feel best, physically, emotionally and spiritually.

A justification for being vegetarian or not, is a waste of breath, time and energy. And all too often it comes off as whiney, or as a condemnation to others. And can lead to unneccesary conflict. (see above) Save your energy for something really useful. Do a 5K race over the holidays and enjoy yourself. If someone asks, just say, I like it this way!


I with agree, do what you want, and I don't think I'm better than anyone because I'm vegan. I am the way I am because I like it; don't miss it (dairy/meat), and personally find it gross (for me that it, I don't care what you or anyone else does)
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steffeysue



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooops!

You did it again. You could have just stopped with I like it this way, but you had to go on and tell how you don't miss it and it is gross to you!!

So, why do you do that? I don't get it!

The miracle is not that I finished the race, it is that I had the courage to start. --John Bingham and Steffeysue
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